IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES
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Sujet: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Mar Juil 12, 2011 7:19 am
A lot of automaton verge watches for sale on ebay and other websites are fake. Be very careful !
How can you recognise them ? Fake automaton watches often have bad quality copper cases. Only the movements are antique. Another clue is the dial : they ALWAYS use little dials that you can find on women's pocket watches made around 1900.
Here is an ugly fake which was sold for 2200 euros : http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130534316759&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
This one seems OK but the dial is also wrong (sold for 4700 euros) : http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120748431086&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Look at the typography :
Now compare with these women's pocket watches made around 1900, and you will understand what I mean when I say that these dials are used on fake automaton watches :
I have also doubts about the automatons, because of their low quality... Authentic automatons are often made of multi-color gold and are delicately chiselled.
I have made a comparison :
Finally, here are two authentic automaton watches. The second one is a rare skeletonized model made around 1810 which is in my private collection.
I have made a video :
In conclusion : automaton watches are very fascinating but you must be very careful if you want to buy one. They are rare and very expensive, so you will find a lot of fakes on the web. I hope that this guide will help you.
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plume68 Silver member
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Sujet: Re: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Mar Juil 12, 2011 1:51 pm
very informative!
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Sujet: Re: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Lun Aoû 22, 2011 12:38 pm
Here is another authentic automaton watch, but in bad condition :
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Sujet: Re: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Jeu Sep 08, 2011 11:50 am
Another bad quality fake, quite easy to identify... Inside the case you can see a fake 18K hallmark.
The price is completely mad : http://www.ebay.com/itm/18k-ANIMATED-STRIKING-QUARTER-REPEATER-/190573203657?pt=Pocket_Watches&hash=item2c5f0c50c9#ht_500wt_1287
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Sujet: Re: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Jeu Sep 08, 2011 11:59 am
This one is 100% authentic but needs to be restored :
A nice model "aux nègres" :
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Sujet: Re: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Dim Sep 18, 2011 7:14 am
There are also fake erotic scenes... They are adapted on authentic movements, but the characters are new, their quality is too bad.
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Sujet: Re: IMPORTANT GUIDE : how to recognise FAKE AUTOMATON POCKET WATCHES Lun Juin 18, 2012 1:33 am
Another fake on ebay : the movement and the gold case are authentic, but not the dial. The quality of the automatons is too bad.
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